Monday, January 29, 2007

Libby Trial: Talking Points for the Defense

I'm at the Libby trial again. The morning started with Ted Wells, Libby's attorney, continuing his cross-examination of Cathie Martin, who was Vice President Dick Cheney's chief PR aide. He asked her repeatedly about four sets of talking points that Cheney's office drew up during the controversy triggered by former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's charge that Cheney's office and the White House had manipulated the prewar intelligence. Did any of these sets mention Wilson's wife, he asked Martin several times. No, she replied. Did you make use of the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA employee during your effort to counter Wilson's criticism? No, she said.

Wells seems to be developing this argument: because the talking points developed by Cheney's office--with Libby's input--did not mention Valerie Wilson and her CIA connection, then Valerie Wilson's CIA link was an irrelevant or minor matter for Scooter Libby. Consequently, it would have been quite easy for him to forget about it and have no later recolelction of ever having known anything about it.

This is a pretty slim argument. Not every leak is a talking point--especially one that might involve classified information. And Libby--in speaking to reporters--would hardly be limited by a set of talking points written by the press people in Cheney's office.

But why shouldn't Wells take a stab at such an argument? He's throwing everything he can at the jury. He also asked Martin a series of questions to point out that the White House--after Wilson went public with his charges--came to blame the CIA for the use of the Niger allegation in George W. Bush's January 2003 State of the Union speech. His point here: that there was bad blood between the White House and the CIA and that the CIA had motive to get Libby (perhaps by encouraging their past and present officials who are government witnesses to lie about Libby). Again, it's worth a shot, right?

The real action this morning, though, is waiting--waiting for Ari Fleischer to take the stand. He is expected to testify that he leaked information on Valerie Wilson to NBC News reporter David Gregory and that White House communications director Dan Bartlett was involved in this leak. He's up soon.

Posted by David Corn at January 29, 2007 11:29 AM


Saladin said...

The Historic, First Ever DC Massive Impeachment March No-one Reported On

by Rob Kall
Oped News

Yesterday, I reported on the Antiwar Event in Washington D.C.

That's what it was billed as. That's why I went-- to send a message to stop the war, to stop Bush, Cheney, Lieberman, McCain and their enablers.

But I finally realized something quite extraordinary. This was not JUST an antiwar event. It was the largest and perhaps the first major IMPEACHMENT event ever to occur in Washington DC.

The crowd estimates ranged from tens of thousands to half a million. Judging by the signs carried and the sentiments of the protesters-- a good 30-50% of the signs were about impeachment, prosecution, trial for war crimes or imprisonment of Bush and Cheney. And I'd guess that theren't more than a handful of people out of that 100,000 to 500,000 person crowd who disagreed with the message of those signs.

John Conyers talked about firing Bush. Most of the speakers talked about the war. But underneath the antiwar message, something historic happened. The USA's first major, massive impeachment march was held, or maybe I should say, it happened. It wasn't planned. It wasn't orchestrated. It emerged. It took on a life of its own.

Of course, the mainstream media didn't discuss it. But then again, neither did the progressive media, at least that I saw. It sort of happened and it was such a natural part of the demonstration. But I don't recall tens of thousands of impeachment signs during the Viet Nam anti war demonstrations. I remember tear gas.

Tear gas. Bush doesn't have the guts to use tear gas. If he went after Americans for protesting THIS war... well, I grit my teeth just thinking about what would happen. I truly wonder if the capitol police would even obey such orders. I wonder if the nation al guard would. (Actually, the capitol police were ordered to leave protesters alone as they spray painted the capitol steps )And I know that the American people would reach such a fury... well, that's why it didn't happen, and maybe... why it should be pushed. It might just take Bush's popularity down a few more points and move a few more Republican senators into the "what the hell am I doiong supporting this idiot" camp.

Frankly, I don't think, if there was a call for an impeachment protest, that there would be anywhere near the response we saw on Saturday. But underneath the antiwar energy, perhaps underlying and energizing it, there is a clear, huge massively building energy-- a momentum that, as manifested by the historic impeach Bush turnout-- is something the US and the congress has never seen before.

People will probably be patient for a few months, as Waxman, Conyers and others start their hearings. But it is clear, very clear, that tens of millions of Americans expect the congress to protect the constitution, and that means stopping the abuses Bush and Cheney and Gonzalez have perpetrated and prosecuting them for their illegal acts. Tens of millions.

Saturday was historic. Make no mistake about it. It produced, naturally, without a call for it or any effort, the most massive impeachment demonstration in the history ot the USA. It is a beginning. It will not be the last. Americans have had enough of this administration. The Democratic led congress would be wise to smell the coffee.
Photos at the site, linked at WRH.

kathleen said...

The march in D.C. was incredible! The weather was beautiful, and the crowd was as diverse as the marches of Oct 2002, and Feb of 2003 before the invasion. Seniors in wheelchairs, families pushing strollers (many of the strollers had signs on them), teachers, students, construction workers, plumbers, professors, etc. etc.

I asked many people what percentage of the crowd was over 50? i heard over and over that most believed that 50% of the crowd was over 50. Just as I believe it was before the invasion. We know that Middle America marched before and after the invasion. The MSM is beginning to show the world who has been marching on the streets both before and after the invasion. If the MSM had done their jobs before the invasion, those at home who had questions about the invasion would have been empowered by seeing that hundreds of thousands (millions accumulatively) of people just like them were against the invasion.

Here are what some of the signs that the people carried said:

Draft the Bush twins...Cut all war funding...Stop torture....Iraq was better off under Saddam...Are we safer yet?...Defund war Refund Peace...Impeach that bloody lying idiot....Support the Troops....Congress stand up to Bush...Peace with Iran....Sure of Tears...Take a bite our of crime, Impeach Bush and Cheney...IN your guts, you know they're nuts...Impeach the Bush gang...If your protecting the world why isn't the world with you...What would Barney do...Enlistment is low Jenna and Barbara must go....War leaves every child behind...Laura how could you sleep with him....End the war... Who would Jesus surge?....Stop the Crusade...No more oil wars...End Ziionist wars....ARms are for hugging....Mission not Accomplished...Hey Bush can't you see all these people disagree...and many many more.

My personal favorites were....a poster that showed Bush and Cheney behind bars with the words HOMELAND SECURITY acorss the poster.

Another favorite were two young women who stood in the same spot for hours. saying "SEND BUSH HUNTING WITH CHENEY" I watched these two yound women for quite some time. People were laughing as they went by and heard what they were saying.

I walked from the very front to the back video taping and asking folks questions. Talked with quite a few Republicans. Folks are pissed, sad, confused, disheartened, and some are pumped up! Many were staying to lobby their representatives on Monday.

This march was a picture of Middle America trying to use the system appropriately...THE OBVIOUS QUESTION ....IS ANYONE LISTENING?

I will be out of the loop for awhile, work and family commitments. Thank you corn folks I have come to depend on your committed examples of active citizenship!

kathleen said...

Saldin there is another march in March and a Palestinian Solidarity march in early June!

It does give one hope when you see the make up of the crowd and talk to others who know this administration is out of their minds and out of control!

kathleen said...

Later Corn folks!

Robert S. said...

Repost from end of last thread, (slight edit):

On Saturday, standing in the rain in Los Angeles, listening to Ron Kovics, Cindy Sheehan, Tom Morello, Michelle Shocked...

...and hearing the echoes from Washington, D.C. and S.F. and Sacremento...

...and the Reverberations from the past, when the people decided that enough was enough in Viet Nam and the politicians dragged on for many long years, spending our treasure and the lifeblood of our troops; when it is a mistake all have died in vain - and it is our responsibility as citizens to end it...

...I question, Mr. Corn, if impeachment is not the answer, were YOU marching to end this travesty?

What exactly, besides belittling those of us taking the stand, are you doing to end this madness? It is one thing to point to the faults of the current maladministration, but if you erect roadblocks to the change, "your old world is rapidly changin', please get out of the new one if you won't lend your hand."

Mr. Corn, I agree with Sanford Levinson that our Constitution is a document with many flaws, the Senate giving equal voice to the States without regard to population is one such example. However, with its flaws, it is probably much better than any document which could be cobbled together today under our current system of Corporate Media Control and financial pressures. I doubt we would end up with the any semblance of the Bill of Rights.

(end of repost)


Robert, Mr. Corn HAS written two books! Does that count? - Saladin

Sure, but only to two! Well, more seriously, let us analyze the effects of a media voice which, while reinforcing our outrage, diminishes our sense of power to effect change, whether meaningful or symbolic.

To wit: Mr. Corn has belittled the attempts to protest in the streets, found fault with the organizers of said protests, fostered the disorganization between protesting groups, and argues against impeachment.

What, I'm asking is he for, in response to the outrage he documents?

kathleen said...

Thank you David for the updates! Sounds like they are throwing more spaghetti against the wall and more sand in the eyes of the jurors.

capt said...

January 27-29 -- Bring the Mandate for Peace to Washington

Some Youtube videos of the event. The link does not automatically start a video so even dial-ups can have a look-see.


Carey said...

Thank you Kathleen for that lovely eyewitness report. Enjoyed your reflections.

As always Robert, tres eloquent and thoughtful.

Want to see what Wolfowitz has been doing at the World Bank? This report pretty much says it all about Israeli apartheid and its intended effects. This is the first time the drive to conquer the Middle East region is starting to make neocon economic sense at all levels.

Cementing Israeli Apartheid: The Role of the World Bank

Through the violent occupation of Iraq, the US is laying the foundations to further open the economy of the Middle East for their corporate interests. Countries once protected by oil revenues are lining up to sign bilateral agreements leading to a Middle East Free Trade Agreement. MEFTA would impose free market policies that have enslaved other regions of the global south to global capital. In Palestine, the World Bank has played a key role in facilitating the cooperation of global capital and occupation.

In Palestine, international powers are eager to implement plans to use the apartheid apparatus of the Israeli occupation—particularly the infrastructure created by the Apartheid Wall—for the establishment of industrial zones, guaranteeing economic dependency and exploitation of Palestinian communities on top of the occupation control.

The Apartheid Wall is a devastating extension and acceleration of occupation policies, designed to annex nearly half of West Bank lands and imprison the remaining population within 12 percent of historical Palestine. The Wall to date has destroyed thousands of dunums (4 dunums are equivalent to one acre) of land, uprooted olive trees, displaced families and communities, and separated Palestinians from their land and other Palestinians. Despite the 2004 International Court of Justice (ICJ) decision, which took up the Palestinian call that the Wall must be torn down and affected communities compensated—the construction of the Wall has only accelerated in the last year.

capt said...

David Corn has written more than two books. He is the author of the biography Blond Ghost: Ted Shackley and the CIA's Crusades (Simon & Schuster, 1994).

Corn was a contributor to Unusual Suspects, an anthology of mystery and crime fiction (Vintage/Black Lizard, 1996). His short story "My Murder" was nominated for a 1997 Edgar Allan Poe Award by the Mystery Writers of America. The story was republished in The Year's 25 Finest Crime and Mystery Stories (Carroll & Graf, 1997).

His first novel, Deep Background, a political thriller, was published by St. Martin's Press in 1999.

His book, The Lies of George W. Bush: Mastering the Politics of Deception (Crown, 2003) was a New York Times bestseller

He is the co-author (with Michael Isikoff) of HUBRIS: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War(Crown, 2006).

In addition to all of his other fine work writing for The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Los Angeles Times, The Philadelphia Inquirer, The Boston Globe, Newsday, Harper's, The New Republic, Mother Jones, The Washington Monthly, the LA Weekly, the Village Voice, Slate, Salon,,, and many other publications. And he is a regular panelist on the weekly television show, Eye On Washington. He has appeared on The O'Reilly Factor, Hannity and Colmes, On the Record with Greta Van Susteren, Crossfire, The Capital Gang, Fox News Sunday, Washington Week in Review, The McLaughlin Group, Hardball, C-SPAN's Washington Journal, and many other shows. He is a regular on NPR's The Diane Rehm Show and To The Point and has contributed commentary to NPR, BBC Radio, and CBC Radio. He has been a guest on scores of call-in radio programs.



Robert S. said...

My point, Capt., is not to reduce David's work to the sum of his output, except humorously trying to echo the Firesign Theatre's "only to two, Jughead." Rather, analyzing his work, is his voice an empowering one, or a disempowering one?

Amy Goodman's voice is an empowering one, for instance...

capt said...

From: Secrecy News email


In the latest ruling in the prosecution of two former officials of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee for allegedly mishandling classified information, Judge T.S. Ellis III said that press leaks regarding the case did not constitute a violation of court rules because the leaks apparently derived from law enforcement sources and not from a sealed grand jury proceeding. On January 26, he rejected a defense motion for a hearing on the leaks. See:

Legal aspects of the conflicts between freedom of the press and national security secrecy are freshly examined in a study by University of Chicago Professor Geoffrey R. Stone and colleagues for the First Amendment Center. See "Government Secrecy vs. Freedom of the Press," December 2006:

And some recent scraps from the Congressional Research Service include "Unmanned Vehicles for U.S. Naval Forces: Background and Issues for Congress," updated October 25, 2006:

and "Privatization and the Federal Government: An Introduction," December 28, 2006:


Some good albeit dry reading.


capt said...


I wasn't being serious - just ribbing a bit. All in jest to DC fans - you know.

"Rather, analyzing his work, is his voice an empowering one, or a dis-empowering one?"

Fair question. The perception of voice and empowerment (beyond being subjective) really depends as much on the reader as the writer?

There are pieces DC has written that have empowered me to give a "WOO HOO"! a few others that leave me scratching my head.

Amy Goodman is empowering at times but other times she drones on with a lack of excitement that borders on banality.

I must be ambidextrous or too wishy-washy! I have always liked reading Amy's stuff more than watching or listening.

I guess both are empowering by my measure. What would we do without the brave honest souls willing to work for our benefit through their work/art?


Robert S. said...

Fearless Pink Floyd

You say the hill's to steep to climb, climbing
you say you'd like to see me try, climbing
you pick the place and I'll choose the time
and I'll climb the hill in my own way
just wait a while for the right day
and as I rise above the tree-line and the clouds
I look down, hearing the sounds of the things you've said today

Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd, smiling
merciless the magistrate turns round, frowning
and who's the fool who wears the crown
go down in your own way
and every day is the right day
and as you rise above the fear-lines in his crown
you look down, hearing the sound of the faces in the crowd

You never walk alone, you never walk alone
walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
and you never walk alone, you never walk alone

Carey said...

I think German Nazism started to develop before Bismarck (sp), but this is a fine thinking piece and warning.

Christianists on the March

Chris Hedges, who graduated from seminary at Harvard Divinity School and worked for many years as a foreign correspondent for The New York Times, warns that the Christian Right is the most dangerous mass movement in American history.

After two years reporting on the movement for his new book “American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America”, he writes that its engine is profound personal and economic despair caused by mounting social and economic inequities that fuel the creation of an American oligarchy. This despair, he said, has led tens of millions of Americans into the arms of demogogues who offer a world of miracles and magic, who sanctify and fuel the rage of America’s dispossessed and who plot the destruction the democratic state.

Robert S. said...


I always thought ambidextrous sounded like a mirror-reversed sugar molecule.

Fair question. The perception of voice and empowerment (beyond being subjective) really depends as much on the reader as the writer?

Maybe, however, I'd separate the functions of reporting and editorializing. In the sense that I value Mr. Corn's reporting skills, and knowledge is empowering, certainly his voice is extremely useful.

My quarrel exists in the editorial side of the equation, where, it appears to me, Mr. Corn is loath to advocate actually pressuring the powers that be for change.

Is this just my hearing? Or is it in his words?

Robert S. said...

Meet the CIA's New Baghdad Station Chief
Appointee played key role in early “torture by proxy” transfers
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007. By Ken Silverstein.

Given the desperate situation in Iraq, the CIA's Baghdad station chief needs to be an exceptional manager who can marshal the agency's forces and work closely with the U.S. armed forces. Unfortunately, several sources have informed me that the CIA has nominated a man who has been widely criticized within the agency and seen as a bad fit for the role. Furthermore, I'm told, the new station chief is closely associated with detainee abuses, especially those involving “extraordinary renditions”—the practice of covertly delivering terrorist suspects to foreign intelligence agencies to be interrogated.

By law, I cannot tell you the name of the new station chief, so I will call him James. He is the son of a well-known and controversial figure who served at the agency during its early years. Sources with whom I spoke say James was stationed in Algeria in the early 1990s, after the military staged a coup to block a sweeping victory by Islamist forces in parliamentary elections (and thereby triggered a bloody civil war that lasted eleven years). During the mid-1990s, James served on an Iraq task force that sought to contain and destabilize Saddam Hussein's regime.

Later, James was posted to the CIA's Counterterrorism Center (CTC), where he served as chief of operations, effectively the number four position at the center. He oversaw Alec Station (the unit charged with hunting Osama bin Laden, which was disbanded late last year) as well as the CTC branch that directed renditions. Following the 9/11 attacks, James served as station chief in Kabul and then in Islamabad.

James is close to Cofer Black, the CTC's director from 1999 to 2002 and currently vice-chairman for the private security contractor Blackwater. It was Black who famously said, “After 9/11 the gloves came off,” and several people with whom I spoke said that James shares Black's enthusiasm for tough methods. James was a key advocate for the increased use of renditions after 9/11 and was a central figure in the rendering of Ibn al-Shaikh al-Libi, who was suspected of running a major Al Qaeda training camp. Al-Libi was picked up by Pakistani security forces in late 2001, following the fighting at Tora Bora in Afghanistan, and was turned over to the FBI for questioning. But James wanted the CIA to take charge of al-Libi, and so he pressed his case with then‒CIA director George Tenet, with Black at the CTC, and, through them, with the White House. Despite the strong objections of the head of Bagram Air base and FBI director Robert Mueller, James got his way, and the CIA soon took charge of al-Libi. (Newsweek has an account of the fight between FBI and CIA, which I have confirmed independently.)

“[James] thought al-Libi was being uncooperative and he saw the FBI as an impediment to getting the information he wanted,” said one person with direct knowledge of the affair. “He had a sympathetic audience at the CIA and [also at] the White House, which spearheaded the rendition. But al-Libi was already cooperating with the FBI, only the White House didn't think [the Bureau] was being aggressive enough.”

The CIA transferred al-Libi to Egyptian intelligence, which is known for its “aggressive” tactics. The Egyptians got al-Libi to talk, but much of what he said, undoubtedly obtained under torture, was nonsense—including bogus information about collaboration between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein that soon found its way into then‒Secretary of State Colin Powell's notorious address to the United Nations.

The appointment of James has the support of top CIA officials, including the current head of the agency's Near East Division (whom James once appointed to run Alec Station and who I'm told is soon to be the new Associate Deputy Director for Operations). But sources have told me that James has frequently been divisive and ineffective in previous positions.

One former official who knows James well described him as “a capable officer,” but, he said, “I heard he had been selected to go to Baghdad, and was shocked. He is a linear thinker, very cautious and uninspiring. His reputation and relationship with the military, especially the special-ops community, is very bad, based on substantive issues that arose during his time [in Afghanistan and Pakistan] post-9/11. He is the wrong guy to send, especially when General [David] Petraeus is headed out to take our final shot at turning Iraq around.”

Another former official called James a “smart guy” who had developed a good relationship with Afghan president Hamid Karzai, but described him as a terrible manager. “He's the last guy you want running a tense place like the station in Baghdad, because he creates a lot of tension himself,” he said.

This person—and two others with whom I spoke—was highly critical of James's role in renditions and said that he would certainly be subject to scrutiny if an investigation into that program is launched. “These guys believed that the memos written by [Albert] Gonzalez and lawyers at the CTC gave them the legal authority to do what they wanted,” he said. “But in my view that was just stuff we were writing to ourselves. No judge ever reviewed them to see if the tactics they approved were actually legal.”

Robert S. said...

Editor's Note: The article below states that "tens of thousands" attended the March on Washington Saturday. For many years now, the United States Park Police and other government agencies have refused to estimate crowd sizes. The organizers of the March, United for Peace and Justice, estimated the crowd at 400,000. Our headline of "hundreds of thousands" comes down somewhere in between. -smg

Protest Focuses on Troop Increase for Iraq
By Ian Urbina
The New York Times
Sunday 28 January 2007

January 27, 2007 | Protesters throng Constitution Avenue on the north side of the Capitol. The march that followed the rallies stretched the entire length of the route from the Mall to the east front of the Capitol and back to the Mall.
(Photo: Linda Davidson / The Washington Post)

Washington - Tens of thousands of protesters converged on the National Mall on Saturday to oppose President Bush's plan for a troop increase in Iraq in what organizers hoped would be one of the largest shows of antiwar sentiment in the nation's capital since the war began.

The event drew demonstrators from across the country, and many said that in addition to taking their discontent to the streets they planned to press members of Congress to oppose the war.



capt said...


"Mr. Corn is loath to advocate actually pressuring the powers that be for change."

I have always read DC as a narrative voice that brings together facts and includes some inside information (inside the beltway and closer inside the political mechanism).

I have never thought of him as an advocate of anything. I have never thought of his opinions and perspectives as action items.

Overall I don't see DC as a status quo type.

Interesting perspective - I shall be reading DC with the idea advocacy in mind.

There you go - widening my perspective.



Gerald said...

Kathleen, thank you for your activism!!!

I have a difficult time being excited about this Libby trial.

Someone said that Feingold is the real deal. I have a tough time viewing any politician as the real deal.

I heard that by 2030 America will require 50% more energy. Why is the White House Chimp not showing leadership in this area? We need research on alternative energy. The Chimp is an oil man and oil companies own the Chimp lock, stock, and barrel.

We are giving more money to Afghanistan than we give to New Orleans. This is so contemptible as I see it.

The Chimp is such a sickening low life turd.

David B. Benson said...

The lead article in today's TNYT considers increased Iranian involvement in Iraq. Great! Let the Iranians provide security in the Sunni provinces and the Saudis provide security in the Shi-ite areas.

The British and the Americans and the other foreigners can then all go home!

David B. Benson said...

Errr, interchange 'Sunni' and 'Shi-ite'.


capt said...

Fleischer Testifies Libby Told Him About CIA's Plame

Former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer told a jury that ex-vice presidential aide Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby disclosed a CIA operative's identity to him three days before Libby has testified he learned it.

Fleischer, testifying in the second week of Libby's perjury trial in Washington, said Libby told him during lunch on July 7, 2003, that Iraq war critic Joseph Wilson was sent to Africa by the Central Intelligence Agency the previous year at the instigation of his wife. Wilson's wife worked for the CIA in its counter-proliferation division, Fleischer said Libby told him.

``I think that he told me her name,'' which is Valerie Plame, Fleischer told the jury today. Libby also said ``something on the lines of `This is hush-hush. This is on the QT. Not very many people know about this,''' he told the jury. Fleischer testified for prosecutors under a grant of immunity from prosecution.


*****end of clip*****

I can't wait to read DC's take on it but the case Fitzgerald is presenting is looking bad for Scooter.


capt said...

Fleischer recalls discussion about Plame

WASHINGTON — Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer testified Monday that then-colleague I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby told him over lunch that the wife of a prominent war critic worked at the CIA.

Fleischer said the conversation happened July 7, 2003, days before Libby told investigators he was surprised to learn about the CIA operative from a reporter. That discrepancy is at the heart of Libby's perjury and obstruction trial.

Fleischer, who was the chief White House spokesman for the first 2 1/2 years of President Bush's first term, said Monday that Libby invited him to lunch to discuss Fleischer's planned departure from the White House. He said it was the first time he and Libby had eaten lunch together.

They talked about Fleischer's career plans and their shared interest in the Miami Dolphins football team, Fleischer testified. He can't remember who brought it up but he said the conversation then turned to the growing controversy over former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, who accused the White House of ignoring prewar intelligence on Iraq.

"Ambassador Wilson was sent by his wife," Fleischer recalled Libby saying. "His wife works for the CIA."

Fleischer said Libby also used the woman's name, Valerie Plame, and told him it was "hush hush."

"My sense is that Mr. Libby was telling me this was kind of newsy," Fleischer said.

Fleischer said he again heard about Plame four days later aboard Air Force One from White House communications director Dan Bartlett. Bartlett was reading documents and began "venting" that reporters kept repeating Wilson's claim that Vice President Dick Cheney sent Wilson on a fact-finding trip to Niger.

"His wife sent him," Fleischer recalled Bartlett saying. "She works at the CIA."

Fleischer said he relayed that information to reporters from Time magazine and NBC. A reporter from Newsweek magazine was also there but may have walked away, he said. The reporters paid no attention to the comment, he testified.

"I never in my wildest dreams thought this information was classified," Fleischer testified.


*****end of clip*****

Sounds bad for Libby but "I never in my wildest dreams thought this information was classified," Fleischer testified., sounds like a lie to me. The content of the information was about a CIA employee? Call me simple but THAT would have had me pause. I would assume "hush-hush" meant the information was sensitive the CIA part would have fleshed it out.


Saladin said...

Robert, my comment about Corns books was sort of tongue in cheek. I know he has riled up his readers more than once for his stand on certain topics, but he is also under constraints as long as he punches the clock at The Nation.
Capt, I knew about his CIA book, but I was just thinking of the two related to the subject at hand, namely the corrupt administration in charge at the moment. No one can second guess his motives or agenda. But I do wonder why he gave up his comment section, it seemed very popular and I know there are relatively easy ways to keep out hackers. I've considered the possibility that the negative comments re: Israel, may have caused him to suffer some heat? But, who knows?
Kathleen, your report is VERY encouraging! Planning for March, and or June, is far more realistic for me, please stay in touch and keep me updated. I am hoping to attend at least one of those events.

Saladin said...

Edging Impeachment Back Onto the Table

The news from former vice presidential chief of staff "Scooter" Libby's trial on charges of obstructing a federal investigation -- particularly the revelation that Vice President Dick Cheney wrote a memo that effectively confirms his intimate involvement in strategizing about how to counter the inquiry into the Bush administration's politically-motivated outing of CIA operative Valarie Plame -- should slowly but surely edge the prospect of impeachment back onto the table from which Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi removed it.
This is an excerpt from a Nation article by John Nichols. Who knows, Mr. Corn may be feeling motivated to change his tune in the future? Of course, those in the know already knew much of the traitorous activities occuring in DC, and even though we are forced to wait for the slow wheels of law to turn, maybe something will come of this yet, I reiterate, MAYBE!

capt said...

New Thread!