Wednesday, November 28, 2007

Turley: “It Is Rather Clear That What The President Ordered Was A Federal Crime”





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The Bush administration has been using the “state secrets” defense in order to have federal law suits challenging their illegal eavesdropping programs thrown out of court. So far, they have been successful; thanks, in most cases, to lazy or partisan judges who have given little or no scrutiny of the validity of their claims which, according to Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley on Tuesday’s Countdown, are nothing more than unconstitutional attempts to cover up their own federal crimes.

Olbermann: “With or without this new law, suppose one of the anti-wiretapping civil lawsuits succeeds, what does that legal victory actually mean then in terms of stopping the government or punishing Alberto Gonzales or any other top officials who were responsible for this?”

Turley: “Well, it can mean a lot and that’s one of the reasons there’s a lot of people, both Democrats and Republicans, who don’t want to see it happen. They don’t want a court to say that the president did something that is a federal crime. That’s why they’re trying to get all these cases thrown out of court because it is rather clear that what the president ordered was a federal crime, clearly defined in federal law. But that causes a problem because many of the Democratic leaders and Republican leaders have promised each other that they would not start impeachment proceedings, but when a federal judge says the president committed a crime, it’s pretty darn hard to ignore that.”


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Hard to ignore it - but not impossible. Intentional ignorance is hard work.

16 comments:

Gerald said...

Hitler Bush is Nazi America's deity!!! He can do what he wants in Nazi America because Hitler Bush is Nazi America's god!!!

Gerald said...

The Nazi American Way

Gerald said...

Have they no shame

Gerald said...

The Democrats had a chance to draw a line in the sand, to absolutely require Mukasey to denounce waterboarding before his elevation to attorney general. Now they have chosen as their spokesman a discredited general, linked to the most egregious abuses in Iraq. The Bush administration passed Sanchez over for a promotion, worried about reliving the Abu Ghraib scandal during the 2006 election year. Now it’s the Democrats who have resuscitated him. Have they no shame?

capt said...

"Have they no shame?"

Um, no - they are politicians after all is said and done - and they are not very good politicians at that.


"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under."
~ H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)

Gerald said...

Silence is not permitted

Gerald said...

Look at the face of the boy at the top of the blog post and imagine what he feels as he faces what America has wrought in his tortured country. Then lift up your heart in prayer and ask God to heal us of the fear that causes us to kill and torture.

Gerald said...

A great war leaves the country with three armies - an army of cripples, an army of mourners, and an army of thieves.
– German proverb

Carey said...

Stuff is coming out from the investigations. Bitchen.

I just saw this. Oh my goodness! It's kind of a surprise.

Late Shift Work is Linked to Cancer

Next month, the International Agency for Research on Cancer, the cancer arm of the World Health Organization, will classify shift work as a "probable" carcinogen.

That will put shift work in the same category as cancer-causing agents like anabolic steroids, ultraviolet radiation, and diesel engine exhaust.

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It's the combination of all the various environmental/genetic factors exploding multidirectionally. Cancer reigns.

capt said...

The link went south so I will offer this as well:

Late Shift Work is Linked to Cancer

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Interesting stuff.

Carey said...

The link must have been lost in the transfer over. Sorry 'bout that. Isn't that icky?

Carey said...

I'll tell you one thing. H.L. Mencken couldn't have been more right. He predicted a "Bush" imbecile in the White House. And we got one.

We're so fucked.

Carey said...

I don't know if you know the tidbit about Franklin Pierce. Don't think I've mentioned it to anyone, come to think of it.

The political movers and shakers of Pierce's era invented him. He was the "mediocre" man Americans would be attracted too. Completely made up. The whole shibang. Just like Bush's presidency. Pierce was a mock-up.

Guess who's cousin from way back Pierce is? Barbara Bush.

Carey said...

Sorry for the slightly improper grammer there. It's fitting when discussing Bush.

capt said...

"Sorry for the slightly improper grammer there."

Don't be silly.

Anything goes!

Gerald said...

Quotable
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
– Mahatma Gandhi